Ashirwad Tripathy
Have a bottom up approach. And it's your voices that matter most.

Swaran Ravindra
So let's start by playing a short game. So we have 10 minutes where the fellows will be speaking to other fellows, you will get an opportunity to get to know each other. Tell each other a little bit about yourself. And the main reason why you are here, what is the impact that you're looking at generating, Your time starts now. Oh,

Ashirwad Tripathy
and make sure that you introduce yourself sounds to people that you don't know. New people so they should know.

Swaran Ravindra
Just post what they wanted Oh, did you want me to?

Ashirwad Tripathy
So what you have to do is, you have to find a person that you don't know. We have not met, not your friends. Maybe why IGF and up IGF can interact with each other. You ask them two questions. Right? And please just move around. Move around

Swaran Ravindra
let's get up let's do this in person. We are so blessed to be able to do this in person.

Ashirwad Tripathy
And also in this game, the one you introduce yourself to just sit with them revenue group Oh fellows, if

Swaran Ravindra
you don't see you talking to anybody, you don't get your certificates

Ashirwad Tripathy
if someone is not active and within themselves, then we no longer call them front and you know they'll have to speak again. It's not even

Swaran Ravindra
okay this session can include your selfies but as long as you are talking to each other to

Swaran Ravindra
no certificates for those who don't talk. Second part

Ashirwad Tripathy
of the game is that you have to sit with the person that you're just introduced to. So don't say to the friends that direct make new friends

Ashirwad Tripathy
find people with whom you share your interest. It's very important that you understand each other's culture when you're in these kinds of events. That's another learning itself

Ashirwad Tripathy
all right oh game is almost over. So find faces that you want to talk to quickly as well.

Amrita Choudhury
So now,

Ashirwad Tripathy
excuse me, everybody. The game time is over the lecture. Time might begin so don't sit where you sat before sit with the new med friends.

Chandra
interact with each other?

Swaran Ravindra
Okay, now we have two minutes to settle down

Swaran Ravindra
Okay, let's settle down. Please take a seat.

Ashirwad Tripathy
Let's settle down. I hope you're liking the game. You have three days to play this game. So the three days of API just keep on playing this game. Barney deducing and meeting new people and keep on interacting

Swaran Ravindra
Okay, let's settle down. Please take a seat. Please take a seat. Please take a seat. Please take a seat. You can continue with this.

Ashirwad Tripathy
Yes guys. We have three more days for you to play this game. So we have lunch break and networking break after the event.

Swaran Ravindra
Please take a seat. Let's not forget that the API gi fellowship program is about meaningful engagement before during and after the program. So you have lots of time it's not limited to 10 minutes but we will have to cut you now.

Swaran Ravindra
Thank you. So just to tell you a little bit about AP IGF. The Asia Pacific Regional Internet Governance Forum serves as a platform for discussion, exchange and collaboration in efforts towards global Internet governance development in the Asia Pacific region. API GS objectives to raise awareness and encourage participation from relevant stakeholders around the region on Internet governance issues, as well as to foster multilateral multi stakeholder discussions about issues pertinent to the Internet. The multi stakeholder approach is a core principle of the PRI GF with the emphasis on the diversity of participants and openness of the discussion. So this is only the beginning.

Ashirwad Tripathy
So yes, we have three more days to interact. And we have just one hour of this event so make sure now your attention is towards here. And well this day one is for you. Your campuses are building and we need your support in ensuring that the Internet is inclusive, sustainable and trusted. That's the theme of this year, we're going back to the basic we're putting people at the center. So with that being said, out of the bottom up approach in our forum, that means that every voices are heard, we make sure that every voices are heard, but that we have biggest stakeholder engagement committee we are programmed on various committees. So you can you know, put in your thoughts. And also we welcome you all to join the multi stakeholder group if you're very interested in making an impact in your region, as well as the Asia Pacific region. Being that said, for this capacity building session, we have experts of this field. We actually were a fellow and we're still learning by one of our our chair and one of the most beautiful people person that I know like to welcome and you the chair of multistakeholder will give her remarks

Unknown Speaker
on fact based

Anju Mangal
on blocking the remote sorry, fun fact these two Ashirwad and Soren were our fellows so alumni fellows now and they are now part of the multi stakeholder group which is we call the leadership group and this leadership group is fantastic. is I will not be here because without them, these people are amazing. I could name all of them but not now but you will get to meet all of them later. Warren has already talked about what API IGF is, but I wanted to focus on one thing, multi stakeholder community. What does that mean to you can someone tell me what is multi stakeholder community?

Vinayak Hegde
Anyone? May I add to that? As please?

Unknown Speaker
All right. So hello, everyone. I am primarily from Pakistan. In my view, the multi stakeholder community or the multi stakeholder approach is basically a community where people come from different backgrounds with people from different you know, knowledge bases come together and give a different perspective. So for example, in this particular context, you don't have to be some tech people or some IT professionals or maybe Internet Society members, but rather they can be general public they can be the lawyers that deal with the cyber law. They can be sociologists, economists, psychologists all sitting together, or giving their versions or to form a more comprehensive and acceptable policy.

Unknown Speaker
Awesome. Omar,

Anju Mangal
thank you so much for joining remote participants. I also have to acknowledge thank you so much. One more and then we move to the next she's going

Unknown Speaker
multi stakeholder ism is a form of governance wherein we give a platform to diverse voices coming from different backgrounds and most importantly to the voices which are not ordinarily represented, right. analyzed. Voices

Anju Mangal
right and who are the marginalized communities. Oh, you don't need a mic for the marginalized communities,

Unknown Speaker
come on, come

Unknown Speaker
on. I have seen a few here. What about someone coming from the remote islands? Are they marginalized? Hi. What are

Anju Mangal
they all parts of Internet ecosystem. Now when you focusing on Asia Pacific Internet Governance Forum, focus on these communities. You are here representing your communities. Am I correct? Are you representing yourself only? Right? I'm not representing myself. I'm also representing your community. I'm representing my community. I'm even representing my family. My mom has difficulties you know trying to get online sometimes she continues to hassle me but you know, at the end of the day, we need to help my mom. Youth, not many youths are able to join this session. You were fortunate enough to join but some of the fellows could not join because of visa issues because of flight issues. There are lots of challenges that people face that we don't know about. And just yesterday, there was an earthquake in Papua New Guinea, Papua New Guinea is a small is a is a big island country in the Pacific. We will have delegation from the minister's office, which is the ministry of ICT. They will be joining us tomorrow. But there's also our representatives from the from PNG. From aping they joined APNIC. They joined APC and they also joining APR JF. Imagine going through an earthquake and trying to travel at the same time. How difficult is that? Well, I'm thinking you know when you're talking about APR, JF APR is a discussion forum. You have so many different topics, so many different sessions. Most of you were part of AAPC. Right. There's just, you know, just a small point in terms of you know, what we could do with the different sessions. But there's, there's a huge and diverse topic that experts will be coming together, joining you and you will be learning from them this week. But what I want you to, to understand is that you're not just representing yourself, you're representing the different communities. Now there's another special community that we always need to focus on persons with disability. I'm gonna get vasca and Monique to just say a few words how difficult it is for them to be here but also how inclusive how we need to be very inclusive.

Vashkar Bhattacharjee
Firstly, in the first day, try to borrow your I see this world if I have the technology, proper manner, in a barrier free way, I don't need to borrow your I can do it independently. So I came here to make Internet Lucifer all Thank you.

Manique Gunaratne
Thank you, adding to what Vasquez said many. Especially Internet. I will make you realize how difficult it is without saying without hearing how difficult it is to access the Internet. So as people with non disabilities all of your have to play a key role making the Internet access for people like us, thank you. Disability ability

Anju Mangal
is key diversity inclusion. I'm not going to talk about the different topics, but I want you to go around the room this whole session this whole week. Find out what each and every one is doing, but be genuine but also show some respect and kindness because there are lots of people that are going through so much. We the MSG group, the chairs we are going to be around come to us if you feel like you want to meet someone. So for example, I'm just going to give an example. We have chancador here who's going to speak and he is from the global Igea trying to die please stand up. He's from the UN IGF so there's a global process, but that global process also aligns to regional and national so if you want to get to know him, you tell me we'll introduce you to check it out. And if he says no, you come and complain to me okay? All right. Okay, I'm just gonna end it here because we have different people talking about different sessions. I'm going to hand it over to Jennifer. And I have to say before I hand it over to Jennifer, can we give a round of applause to Christine Christine, please stand up.

Unknown Speaker
It would not be here. This would not have happened without this lady. She is amazing.

Unknown Speaker
And now we'll hand it over to Jennifer. Jennifer, can

Unknown Speaker
you introduce yourself

Jennifer Chung
Thank you, Andrew. Hello, everyone. My name is Jennifer Chung. For those who haven't seen me or seen my name or see me these two days. I work for a dot Asia organization, but I am part of the APR GF Secretariat. Some of you may have received emails from me and some of you may have sent emails to me, but here I am going to talk a little bit about the synthesis document. And the synthesis document is one of the key outputs of the Asia Pacific Regional IGF. We started this as a pilot experiment back in 2015. So this year will be our eighth edition of this document. And this is a little different. This document is not a negotiated document. We don't sit in the town hall session and you know, kind of just pick through the language in that way. What this document really wants to show is the highlights and the issues and the important key topics that we talk about at a PRGF every year so each documents every year will be a little different. What is also important is there are so many interesting, important Internet governance and policy issues in our region, but we do not include every single issue that happens in the Norwegian into this one document otherwise it will be the longest document ever, no one will ever read it. This document really aims to reflect what is discussed during a PRGF meeting. Now how can you participate? Can we go to next slide. We have a framework document this has dropped zero currently on the comment platform comment dot APR GF dot Asia. It is currently live. You can type it on your laptop, look at it on mobile. And what this is really meant to do is when you are in the workshops when you are listening to interesting issues when you are participating or if you hear something that you think okay this is very important to cap capture and to to reflect in this document. Go here. You can scroll up and down I think this is just a screen capture but you will see each each workshop reflected in a separate paragraph. You can click on a little speech bubble there and you'll be able to you know input your name, your email, your email will not be published. But then you will able to put a comment in or put a question in anything that you think is really important to be captured. This document is actually shepherded by our drafting committee or drafting committee or is a committee of volunteers who are constituted every year to help us collect this input to help us draft this document and at the end of the process. This document is published. What is very interesting this year is this is also the year where the UN Secretary General is looking for input to the global digital compact. I'm not going to talk too much about that you'll hear more of it from Ania and from chughtai later on, but this is a very important process that we need to make sure we have our voices heard. We have our input into this process. This is very important for Asia Pacific region. We are a large region we have most of the world's population here also most of the unconnected people here as well. So we need to make sure that issues policy issues, Internet governance issues that are important to us that are discussed here are reflected in this document and are reflected in the comments and inputs into the global digital compact public consultations. And finally, I really want to say that at the end of each APR GF conference day, there will be a town hall session. What is this town hall session it's really a session for all of you. Everything you've heard during the day, this one hour at the end of this day. Very precious is for you to take the mic anybody can line up in person and also remote, we will have a que take the mic and tell us these are the things that are important to you. These are the things that you've heard during the day that really do reflect the discussions that we've had during this meeting. So I really urge you and you were saying before, you know make your voices heard. This is how this is one way of making sure your voice is heard when it's captured in this document when it's captured in all these processes. And I also want to say the drafting committee, the committee that shepherds the whole process is open for membership as well. Any of you here sitting in this room, any fellows any of the youth IGF fellows as well, you are very welcome to join us there is no barrier for entry. We just need your passion and we need a little bit of your time. But it is a very rewarding experience is a very rewarding process. And I think hopefully, you'll also learn a lot from this. So I urge all of you to kind of keep this on a tab open throughout the conference comments dot APR GF to Asia. When you hear something interesting when you think something is important to be captured. Go on there. Put a comment in so we make sure that we can go through and see all these comments and we'll make sure we include it in the final document itself. So that's my little bit of introduction passing it back to Asher Ron.

Ashirwad Tripathy
Thank you, Jim. Another information for you. So we want this event to be interactive. So we're watching you guys and the most interactive people. They'll get some kind of gift. Very good gift. Anyways, I like this poem by Robert Herrick it says the other heroes but while he may all times still fly, because the same flower that smiles today, tomorrow will be dying. On this note. We have Chun Tae here. So gather rose, but the IGF secretariat is here. Please be interactive. And please ask your question to you check it out.

Unknown Speaker
Thank you very much.

Chengetai Masango
So my name is Thomas Sango and I am in charge of the IGF Secretariat based in Geneva. How many of you have been to global IGF? Okay, great. So every few of you and were.

Unknown Speaker
Open to Turkey. Okay, great. Great. And anybody else at the back? Me Germany. Ah, Geneva okay. Okay, great. So it's a few of you, less than half of you but let me just go very quickly about the IGF and then I'll turn it over to Anya, whom I think most of you know more than us. They know me. But anyway, let's get to the first slide.

Vinayak Hegde
So the IGF

Unknown Speaker
well

Unknown Speaker
first of all the brief introduction, the IETF is a global multi stakeholder group that is discussing public policy issues concerning the Internet and public policy issues can be anything from IP addresses to social aspects, economic aspects, etc. But how did we start? The IDF started in the world summit of the information society that is with us, and the idea of the voices started in the year 2000. I think in Tunisia, where there was the ITU pinup lottery and there was a discussion and people and governments were noticing that there's this thing called the Internet, and more and more of the economic and social aspects were coming on on this Internet. But the governments didn't have much of a say in how the Internet run and also the other stakeholder groups that weren't really communicating. And there was also this growing digital divide of the haves and have nots those who were connected to the Internet and those who weren't connected to the Internet. And it was seen that those who were connected today and we're having more and more benefits, and we're leaving the others behind. So there was a proposal by the President of Tunisia for World Summit on the Information Society, which was taken up by the Secretary General and the Secretary General decided that it was going to be a cross agency meeting and it was also going to be multi stakeholder as well. So there were two phases. There was phase one. And 2003. And here they were discussing Internet governance in general, but when they started discussing Internet governance, they suddenly found out they didn't have a real definition of what Internet governance is, and if you're discussing anything, you should have a common understanding and a common definition of what Internet governance is. So as the UN, they decided to establish a Working Group on Internet Governance, which was based in Geneva, and that's actually when I joined the process. So the working group on internal governance was a multi stakeholder body and they discussed and came up with a definition of Internet governance. And the definition of Internet governance that came up with was that Internet governance is the development and application by governments, private sector, civil society, in their respective roles of shared principles, norms, rules, decision making procedures and programs that shape the evolution and use of the Internet. So that was a definition and that definition is not a very narrow definition. It's very broad. Definition of Internet governance. And then in paragraph 72 of the Tunis Agenda, they called the Secretary General to convene a multi stakeholder forum for the Internet governance and he did that establishing the secretariat in Geneva. And the first meeting was in Athens in Greece. Next slide, please. Whoever is controlling slides. Thank you very much, and I should be fast because I'm going to get chased off soon. So just but about the IGF structure. So we have a secretariat, which is based in Geneva, and our home institution is actually in New York, which is the United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs. I should have made that a question actually, since we're supposed to be into. Then there is the multi stakeholder advisory group and what is the multi stakeholder advisory group can somebody tell me?

Vinayak Hegde
Anybody remember this prices? Okay.

Unknown Speaker
We have prices I forgot to give prices.

Unknown Speaker
So a multi stakeholder advisory group becomes a group of people who are representatives of a particular multi stakeholder and they have convened meetings along with ICANN and they give advices on what the future of Internet governance will look like. And they give their opinions as a representative of that particular multi stakeholder group.

Unknown Speaker
Yes, so we have a multi stakeholder advisory group which is which consists of 14 members, and they represent the five regions and which are the five regions with questions are coming out of the five world regions that the IDF is divided into. And we have to be quick because I'm going to get chucked out of here. Europe Africa. Nope, nope. Next. Okay, there. No Europe. is not one of them.

Unknown Speaker
Next

Unknown Speaker
alright. Okay. I'm there's, it is yield. Asia Pacific, Africa, North America, South America, Caribbean countries. Yes.

Unknown Speaker
Okay, it's very difficult. One more. Okay. The person who gets this gets a present definitely. Okay. Let me try. Using the Internet, please

Vinayak Hegde
without your blindness. Am I audible? Yes,

Unknown Speaker
yes. Okay, so I think Asia Pacific Africa, Latin American Caribbean. Yes. I think I'm less. I just know about these. Maybe.

Unknown Speaker
Okay, I'll put you at your mercy so no precedent for that. Europe is very difficult because Europe is divided into so there's we org That's the Western Europe and others group which consists of Western Europe.

Unknown Speaker
The USA,

Unknown Speaker
US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. And then we have Eastern Europe which is the former Soviet republics. Asia Pacific you got Africa you got and Gulag which is South America and the Caribbean regions. So yes, the Euro pm because it's split into two is rather difficult. I do understand that. But anyway, and then, recently, we've had the IETF leadership panel which was set up by the Secretary General just a couple of weeks ago, in fact, and we have people like Maria Reza from the Philippines and give us a son. We have the Indian vice minister of technology. We have the former prime minister of Estonia etc. And we have the vice minister from MIT from Japan as well. And they are there to enhance the idea of and make these connections with other bodies, like the g7 European Union and all these other high level bodies as well. So we are we occupy the full spectrum from the top to the grassroots level as well. Next slide, please.

Unknown Speaker
Yes, so for the IETF we have had meetings since 2006, as I stayed in Athens, and the main purpose is to go from region to region, so that we we give a chance for people to come because sometimes it's very expensive, especially like from people from the Asia Pacific region, to go to South America to go to Europe, for instance. So there's this way we've been we've been to Athens, Rio de Janeiro, Hyderabad, I remember Hyderabad very well seek Sharm el Sheikh in Egypt, Bill News, Nairobi, Poland. We had a virtual meeting in 2022 because of COVID. And this year, we are going to be in Addis Ababa and next year we're going to be in Japan. But one thing I must underline is that the IGF is not just the annual meeting. We have a very various inter intersessional activities, which I think I'll highlight on the next slide. Next slide.

Unknown Speaker
Um,

Unknown Speaker
okay, well, the next slide I suppose, but okay, for here we have the annual hygiene IGF we have the multi stakeholder advisory group meeting, which meets three times or two times a year, planning the program. We do have an open call for issues and since next year, we're going to be in the Asia Pacific region. It is very important that we get your opinions what the issues that we're going to be discussing next year will be this call is going to go out in December, and we really do want the youth as well to participate in this call. So please watch out for it. And please input your suggestions as well and we have a lot of capacity building.

Vinayak Hegde
Program programs. Next slide. One minute,

Unknown Speaker
oh, oh, wait.

Unknown Speaker
Yes. Give me five minutes, because Anya has to speak as well. Okay, so IGF in December in Addis Ababa. I think I've already spoken about it. We have funding available for the youth. There's going to be a youth forum there. And hopefully we'll see some of you there as well. If you're not able to come there in person, you can come online, next slide. Okay, this is the bottom up multi stakeholder program. That's fine. We can finish for that is over 300 session types, etc. High level leaders track parliamentary track and use Track I've already mentioned that So next slide. And I think we're going to skip the next slide as well. Yes, skip the slide. As for the parliamentary use track, I think I'll give it to Anya, who is in charge of our youth track and also in charge of the national and regional initiatives. She's got

Unknown Speaker
a couple more minutes, right. Hi. Yes.

Anja Gengo
Thank you very much. Really great to be here and I'm looking forward to meet you in person all after Cheng Git. I helped me so I'm not gonna take a lot of time because he already spoke about the principles of the IGF. So let me just tell you the way we want the principles to live and to be basically the framework of the Internet, we want very much is related to developing capacity for the next generation of leaders and experts, which are the young people after this session. I think in a couple of minutes, we will have a dedicated session, which is part of the Youth Track, so allow me to speak more about the Youth Track and the activities the IGF Secretariat, together with all youth ages, is planning for this year, but especially for next year, which I think is very important for this region as we're heading to Japan. And I'll speak there but I would like to just say a few words about the MRIs. Maybe Christine can move to the next slide. Check it they already spoke about insertional work so you're not coming back here as you but let's just go Christine to the neck. Next slide. As you can see here, while Christine is moving to the next slide, the intersessional work is really about the substantive work that's happening throughout the year. It's community led for the community. It's open to everyone. You saw the topics there relating to cybersecurity, gender, internal fragmentation, meaningful access, and the starting position for all of you to understand more how to connect with other stakeholders and your peers from all around the world through this instructional work is really to visit the IETF website and subscribe to the open mailing lists. I would also advise that you use the opportunity that me and Chang attire here but also a number of MAG members that are here. Former MAG members and current that know a lot about insertional work and can guide you I think to how effectively to engage. Now I want to speak just a little bit. Just next slide Christine about the MRIs quick question for you. Are there here stakeholders that were never at a national IGF? I'm not asking for regional cover here so it doesn't make sense but for the National IGF or their stakeholders who do not have a nurse divide you up into countries. So yes, which country is that? Philippines for example, if you're from Fiji probably you don't if you come from Myanmar, probably you don't Cambodia and so on. There are a number of countries in the Asia Pacific region but I think given the Pakistan, Pakistan Pakistan does, but I know that it's a little bit challenging in the past two, three years, but there's really a good community there and there is a recognized national IGF and I hope that we can maybe speak later to have the Pakistan EIGRP what it was at the beginning when it started a number of countries do not have the national IDs. If you're interested maybe to start one or to understand how to start when it would be good in the next two or three days that we're here to that we meet and speak. But in general, what you need to know is that the NRIs the national and regional IGF sub regional IDs, but also the Eutyches are completely organic. They were created by the communities from around the world following the IGF model being inspired by the principles that the IGF model incorporates. And the idea was that through the National IGF regional IGF communities of particular countries and regions can gather together to discuss what's primarily the priority for their countries and their regions. And with that, then bring those outputs further to other IGF to the global IGF and be part of the global discussions there are 155 and arise officially recognized. They follow the same principles as the IGF and if everything maybe just can go to the NRI SMAP that's the next I think slide. Just as you can see, this is a geographical distribution of all the NRI is I think, very good. But as I said, many of the countries especially in this region do not have the national IDs. The value of the regional IGF is that we get to meet each other. And the fact that you are here and there is a national IGF may be a change after this meeting where we can see a potential the establishment. So with that, I know we're super over time. So I'll stop here and thank you for lunch.

Ashirwad Tripathy
Thank you and yeah, we do have a session on NRA as well as other sessions at api Jas so please do attend that. So thank you Jenga and array I think I think it's and I'm yeah, sorry about that. Anyways, you know, in the bottom up approach, there are a lot of people giving their views, but it's sometimes hard to find a how to you know, find a point where you know, you have a decision so it's very difficult, but however this year in program committee, we are very good co conveners of RAM and Joyce so I'll hand it over to Joyce, for you to just say a few

Anju Mangal
words. Thanks very much. Maybe not slightly more than a few words. I hope. So. Hello, everyone. I'm Joyce Chen. In this meeting, actually I wear a lot of hats. I'm told to walk backwards where the camera is. Can you see me now? Okay, I might walk away later, but don't worry. I'm still here. So I'm saying I wear many hats. In this conference. I'm APNIC staff, as you can tell from the sticker. That's important to know because APNIC or the Asia Pacific Network Information Center is also co hosting the API je s so do come up to us. We are very visibly identified and come and talk to us. We'd be more than happy to speak with you. And of course, you can also join the sessions at the APNIC 54 conference when that starts two days from now. Is it Yes. So anyway, I'm also here as the CO convener for the API program committee, and together with me is Babu Ram. Ram. And we have a very fabulous committee that has put together the program for the API GF I have also another hat which is I'm a current NEC member for the IGF together with Amrita very she Oh, she's at the back talking to work as Amina just wave. So if you have any questions about APNIC, about a PRGF about the IGF I am here I'm your resources, you can come and speak to me I'll be more than happy to say hi. So about the a project program. This year's overarching theme is and I have to read it because it's very long, and it's people at the center. Listen carefully. And visioning a community led Internet that is inclusive, sustainable and trusted. The first person who can tell me what the three sub themes are for hrdf gets a price on come on, three sub themes come on.

Unknown Speaker
It's trust, inclusivity, and sustainability.

Anju Mangal
Well done, well done. Inclusion, sustainability and trust. Now, if you look at the three sub themes for AP IGF, they are a little bit different from the sub themes that you would typically see at the IGF, the global IGF so the global IGF this year has five sub themes, if I'm not wrong, and I won't name them. There are a few of them. There's like avoiding Internet fragmentation, human rights, et cetera, et cetera. They're a little more detailed, but at the API GF we decided last year to do a slightly different approach. We figured that maybe we should try and make the sub themes more general, broader, just one word like inclusion. And then any thing or any topic or issue that comes under this topic, can be submitted as a workshop proposal. So inclusion doesn't just mean Internet access. It can also mean diversity representation, that many ways to think about what inclusion is and what inclusion matters are. Same for sustainability. So what can you think of when you think about sustainability? Environmental issues, so a PRGF this year has a session on environment. Christina is one of the organizers, but that one, so look out for it. What else about sustainability, sustainability of the Internet ecosystem? Right? We talk about the multi stakeholder model, is it sustainable, so there are a lot of sessions this year also about this very issue. And then finally, trust. So usually when people think about trusts, we think about cybersecurity, you know, a trusted Internet. We also talk about data protection. Can you use the Internet in a trusted way? So there are many ways to think about the sub themes and so the reason that the API program committee only wanted these three was really so that you can be creative. When you submit your proposals to us. We don't want to tell you, we only want proposals about this, this this and this. We want you to tell us what do you want to listen and discuss at the APR GF. Now having said that, How is anybody here? Anyone submit a proposal this year?

Vinayak Hegde
Show of hands. Keep your hands up?

Unknown Speaker
Your proposal get accepted?

Unknown Speaker
Well done. Oh wow. Kind of was Yeah.

Anju Mangal
That's a huge achievement because this year we received over 80 proposals. Doesn't sound like a lot because at the IGF we receive way more than that. I think 300 Plus proposals or something like that, and we have to look through all of them at proposals 80 Plus proposals this year, but only I think a quarter or less actually got accepted. So actually getting into the API GF is really not that easy. The program committee is very hard to please. But we do give everybody a fair chance. So I hope that next year more people in the room will put your hands up to say I've submitted a proposal. I really hope to see that hope see more, and hope to see more quality proposals as well. So that's all the time I have Thanks. Very much. Any questions? Just come to me.

Ashirwad Tripathy
Thank you, Joyce. I have had this person experience of joys juggling with all the proposals and also thank you very much for that and I hope the event will be very successful. That being said, we'll move on to the next session. This capacity building program. It's transferring future for youth, the opportunities and challenges. It's the IGF youth engagement track. please engage and for that, I'll hand the mic over to Jenna.

Jenna Fung
Hi, everyone, it's me again, how you guys doing? Good. All right. So this year we get a chance to actually have the youth check and then collaborate with the global IETF and having a session with all the youth led session here today at ABR. GSP. Zero. So just quickly, heading to the topic already. I think everyone got really excited about this year's meeting because

Unknown Speaker
because we've been stuck at

Unknown Speaker
home for like two years. And then we finally were united here and in the past few years. We learn a lot that how important is to technologies in Internet because without that our education and work cannot really continue and then we should really recognize how digital transformation is affecting us every day. Consider we don't have much time I will just cut down all my intro that I prepare which is not so important now because what matters more is we have time for all of us to talk with our global youth community who join us remotely as well as everyone in the room here today. But before we go on, move on to have this open floor to discuss this topic together. I would like to pass a time to Anya to a few words on this topic and for this session.

Anja Gengo
Jana Jana agree that I can speak from here and setting because we will have a couple of slides to share that I want to thank Jana and the youth Asia Pacific IGF and the APR IGF for hosting this session. In short, transit, I spoke at the beginning about the youth engagement and this is a good opportunity to circle back to that point and just quickly remind that the IGF Secretariat, but I would say much broadly, technically the tool ecosystem is very much focused on engaging young people in Internet governance and developing capacity for those that will tomorrow take the positions of experts, leaders decision shapers and decision makers. And the sooner we start with that, the sooner we will have a better framework for for addressing issues that relate to Internet governance and with that better Internet that you will want to have the idea for this year agreed with all the youth IDs with a number of organizations that are youth focused related regarding Internet governance, was that we would do around five capacity development workshops which are interconnected. They are designed in a bottom up manner by the parties that I've just mentioned now and they will be delivered in cooperation and thanks to the support of the regional IGF just because as I said at the beginning, those are the meeting points for all of us. So we were very fortunate to be able to launch this track at Euro deke. I believe in June. We were in Italy in three esta we continue to with the second workshop where we discussed prerequisites for digital transformation at the African IGF in Malawi. And finally, the African IGF let let us here to the APR IGF in Singapore, where we are hosting the third workshop. As Jen has said, the whole concept of this youth engagement this year is focused on digital transformation as a very broad topic. That has been a topic that's been recognized by young people following the outputs from IGF 2021 and all these workshops that are we that we are hosting this year, are focused on particular aspects that that young people are finding as important and now being important I can share a few slides with you.

Anja Gengo
So every workshop, as I said, is trying to unwrap a particular aspect of digital transformation as the umbrella topic of this year's Youth Track the idea would be that five capacity development workshops will lead us to the Global Youth Summit, which will be hosted at the 17 dietary have in Addis Ababa in Ethiopia on 28th of November. Some of the names of the colleagues that are involved in the organization of this track are here they're obviously we couldn't put them all on the slide. But if you visit the drift website page, then you can see the colleagues that are working really hard for the for delivering these workshops for this particular workshop here at the APR IGF we've decided that after discussing what digital transformation is about that you Radek what are the prerequisites for digital transformation to benefit from it discuss the African IGF to focus a little bit more on the role of new technologies for digital transformation, especially how is that impacting education and employment opportunities for young people and also abroad in a broader sense? I am very glad to see in this room not just young people, but really a number of senior experts that I know from the ecosystem which hold expertise in various issues on Internet governance, including matters such as new and emerging technologies, specifically artificial intelligence, which will be a subject of our discussion today. And I'm kind of wanting you to join me in bringing inputs on the topic and also discussing what could be the action points that this session could produce in order to bring some prosperity on the issues that we will recognize in the couple of minutes. Today with me there are a couple of experts which are also online I think General also mentioned and we will also hear from them very shortly, but since I'm holding the microphone, Jana will allow me maybe to just quickly remind what we've discussed when we launched the Youth Track at your wedding in Italy. We spoke about what digital transformation is and one of the conclusion from that workshop is that it's very difficult to respond with one definition or even with one description of what digital transformation is, as it seems to different stakeholders. It means different things. But essentially it comes and I'm sure you will agree agree with me to one value which is very important that is that people need to benefit and maximize opportunities for from existing and newly coming digital technologies which are backed with good digital policies. In terms of the of the United Nations, you will often hear the that digital transformation is very much discussed and present in discussions in the context of the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development and 17. Sustainable Development Goals the SDGs as digital technologies have been recognized as an accelerator of achieving the SDGs. And as I said, today, we're going to focus a little bit more on AI on artificial intelligence and how is that affecting our real life now? And what are the estimates for tomorrow and future to come? To start from the scratch about defining the artificial intelligence very similarly to digital transformation conclusion? It's difficult to find one unified definition. There are different definitions of it, but I think they are not contradicting to each other. And for example, you can see some of the examples that we outlined here coming from the academic realm as well as from the ideal spheres. In any case, everything comes down to to machine machine learning related to performing cognitive tasks. And when we speak to young people when we ask them what is AI for them, usually, you don't get a lot of raise hands where they respond until you ask them. Do you live with the AI? And that's when you get a lot of a big show of hands. Before I asked you that question. I know that we have a pool in zoom that we would like to launch and I wanted to ask Christine, if you've maybe already if you're connected to them, it would be good just understand from you, if you are experiencing the effects of the new technologies in your everyday life. And then the second question we would like to ask you relates to trust. Are you trusting your devices and tools and services which are connected to online? So we'll give you a couple of maybe a minute to be responded and then let's see where we are while you're responding.

Anja Gengo
I may just continues saying what I started at the beginning in terms of how you are experiencing AI in everyday life. I'm pretty sure if I would ask for a show of hands, do you you will probably all raise your hands. But if I would ask you what's the source of that experience? Since many of you here are young people and probably enrolled still in some formal educational tracks such as schools or universities, then probably not many of you will raise hands to say yes, they're teaching me that in school. The question of curriculum and syllabus in schools is something that I hope we will come to it relates to digital literacy and digital capacity, which is problematic in many areas. And hopefully one of the action points from this session will be really to address that point as well. But in any case, if you are having a mobile phone and if you're unlocking your mobile phone, by with the help of your face, then obviously you're you are exposed to AI. If you are searching certain results online, and if you get personalized content, then you're very much exposed to the AI doing the same as if you're typing an email and you have some suggestions how to finish your word or your sentence. You're then exposed to the API, if you're using certain maps to navigate your ways. And then those maps are telling you the traffic here is this and this can expose to the API if you're using E banking, for example. And you are based in Singapore, but suddenly even if you're here in Singapore, somebody tries to buy a pair of shoes with let's say in Izmir, probably your app will react to that to get your consent that means that you are also exposed to AI. So those are just very simple examples, but there are obviously more complex one. And this very much relates to trust, because every day or whether yet every minute you're exposed to it. So with that, let's see, what did you respond? On the first poll? Can I ask Christine just to show us the results? If you think you are, if you think you trust let's say this is a second question, but it's fine. Okay, that will correct first, if you are yes, experiencing the effects of the new tech, obviously, as the majority of you confirm, yes.

Unknown Speaker
And I think most of the people in the room actually not on Zoom. So maybe can you guys actually see the answer? Maybe it's too small. I may read it. So that option was like I am experienced the effect of the new tech seconds like I need more opportunity to experience new tech and last one is I don't know. So maybe when you guys put up your hand because most of all, I participant choose number one so what's the option one?

Vinayak Hegde
And then option two.

Unknown Speaker
Okay, one hand and the last one.

Unknown Speaker
I don't know.

Unknown Speaker
Probably know everything,

Anja Gengo
I guess. Thank you, Jana. Well, indeed that says expected. Well, we because I see that all of you, it seems Hammam Parsons, and that really makes you directly exposed to this. And then on the second question, Are you trusting you trusting your devices, your phones when being connected to the Internet? This is always a tricky question. And the question of trust in the Internet governance context is very much present in cross cutting basically all teams and I think the results of this poll very much reflect the discussions that we are used to in Internet Governance Forum context, which is that you are somewhere in between. Yes, I trust. I don't know. And I don't trust as you can see there, there are significant differences between this and my question definitely for you later and maybe Jenna will suppose this is why why the you personally don't trust or why you feel insecure but yet again, you are using all this technology that is AI based. Thank you for for I think we can end the pool is a very interesting results. Thank you for responding. I'll just continue to guide you through a couple of slides just for the sake of setting the stage and I'm looking forward to really learning from you. I think on these types of technologies. Since they are developing basically every day very rapidly. It's very difficult to make any conclusions. I think we're just making promises and and the conclusions hopefully will come soon when we finally understand what principles we want these new technologies to govern it. Moving on, we said that this session will also specifically tackle into how the new and emerging technologies are touching education. Are they are there any innovations in that area? are we lacking something? And then later we're going to see a little bit about the how the drug field is being impacted. In any case, in terms of the from the perspective of the United Nations what I was saying at the beginning, speaking about artificial intelligence, intelligence is something that's very much present in the discussions and for example, in the context of education. Often it's been discussed in how to achieve quality education, which triggers some changes which can be prompted by digital technologies. For example, if you look at what are the current examples of having the AI embedded, or maybe that could be embedded in educational streams that could relate to creating customized or personalized learning tools for students? In other words, to make it easier for you to learn certain content, smart tutoring systems smart grading systems, which would help a lot especially teachers and professors and educational level. Some are speaking about creating games and awards to prompt learning and create personalized learning schedules, which saves time and make learning more effective. Looking at what you wrote, that is really authentic, and that you are the author and somebody that that you take other people's context. So or for example, transcriptional lectures, which is something that I think very much exists in our practices. These types of examples. Look very at the beginning, tempting that they're saving our time that they are making our learning process more effective, more efficient, but it doesn't come without concerns. There are many concerns which are of ethical of legal nature. And also of course, other such as for example, if you create innovative educational systems who has access to it, the pandemic was probably the best illustrator of that of the inequalities of inequity that exists in the world when it comes about switching completely to online education. You saw you saw reporting, for example, the UNHCR how many young people and students were really left behind completely offline deprived from right to education just because of not having access to the Internet or a reliable device or skills to know how to use them. Of course, the questions about data protection and data governance in that sense are very much questionable. who gathers your data to create personalized content? Where are those data stored? Are they used for something else? Those are the types of questions that are very much present in the discussions of the global community. Questions related to liability. What if something goes wrong, who takes responsibility? And then impact of course on work so if you're creating these new tutoring systems, what's the role of teachers for example?

Anja Gengo
Question of algorithms, specialist security and safety and so on. So that's something that we would like to hear from you in terms of whether you experienced these types of issues or you know, somebody that experienced that. Is this something that's been discussed in your communities or you think you are completely left behind from these discussions that in many communities are very much present? Quickly just on how the international community, especially intergovernmental organizations are reacting to these topics, it's very important to understand from you are you left behind from these discussions because they are very much present on the agenda of the global organizations, and global organizations are there to serve all the people of all the planet, for example, we can refer to the Beijing consensus on artificial intelligence and education, which is a very important document offering guidance and recommendations how to best respond to opportunities and challenges that the AI brings to accelerate the quality of education speaks about education management, how to deliver education back to the AI how to empower teach. Teaching and teachers speaks about learning assessment, which is very important principles and the way you individually as a student and collectively your class has been assessed to the extent of developing skills and values offering lifelong lifelong learning opportunities for all as I said that the beginning when we speak about education and the innovations, the question of jobs, obviously comes together among the concerns that machines are taking our jobs. And that's often an argument that you can hear or a concern that you can hear in the in the community. Some of the estimates that you can see is that the technologies such as the AI yes indeed are changing the job markets. For example, before I came, when I was traveling here from Geneva, I went to pay a bill in the bank directly. So I didn't use the banking I wanted to pay directly there. When I went there, there was a machine instead of an officer where I had to put my confirmation of payment and pay it through the machine. And so those are really valid concerns. But what's very important as is that new technologies are also creating new job markets and new jobs. So the question is, how will this balance each other, whether in the near future we will have more jobs, which would require new skills, or we would have just additional jobs to what we have now? For the prediction side that the artificial intelligence and similar technologies will have the strongest while is having already the strongest impact on sectors such as health sector, in terms of predicting the pandemic was probably the best test for us

Anja Gengo
in in the car industry, but also in the area of cybersecurity in the area of E commerce in terms of predicting what you want to buy and the way how you're buying it in a safe and secure and efficient way. Again, concerns here relate to liability. So for example, in the health sector if instead of physical medical doctor, you have an algorithm that helps to make a prescription, what happens if something goes wrong based on that prescription that you received? Who's Who's responsible? Who do you sue their privacy issues? Again, data protection issues, accountability, which is very much a question about Yeah, and then something that is more and more getting prominence is the AI bias in terms of stereotypes in terms of gender, something that a human being is sensitive to consciously, but a machine is not necessarily to and the questions of intellectual property. The question of intellectual property is actually very interesting. I'm gonna stop here because I know we will hear also from Emanuel and we would like definitely to hear from you. But I hope that we will also speak a little bit about the questions whether intellectual property, or a patent can be given to a crate creation that is innovative, that is new that is useful to the society, in that sense can be subject of a patent, but it's not created by human but by a machine and a human is requesting patent for something that's created by a machine. This is very interesting. It's a subject for court decisions in many jurisdictions. And even more interesting is that on similar set of facts, similar law is applied, you have different discussions. The same applies for autonomous or self driving vehicles. So if something goes wrong and let's say you had something while being in a self driving car, who is responsible for taking the liability, and there as well, courts do have a lot of work to do and you will see that the judgments of the verdicts coming from different parts are very much different in this sense, so it's a learning process for all of us. And especially, it's different and it's a learning process on a national level or legislations of certain countries which are emerging more and more and it will be good really to hear from you later. About that. But then also, you may want to see with Emmanuel he probably

Unknown Speaker
they have been definitely. Thank you so much, Anya, for all the inputs on this topic. I believe with all this presentation, you should have some comments later on for our open discussions. I believe there might be something from the youth IGF participant, because yesterday we just had an other panel about NFT and stuff and then definitely now I think AI generated art, it's also an other thing, and for sure, you guys will have some contribution later. But before that, I would like to ask if Emmanuel if you are with us on the call right now. Hi, Jenna, can you hear me? I can hear you. Well, will you be turning on camera today?

Emmanuel C. Ogu
No, not today. It's very early in Nigeria. So

Unknown Speaker
Yep. All right. The time is yours.

Emmanuel C. Ogu
All right. Thank you. Thank you for setting the stage for this conversation. Good morning from Nigeria and it's a pleasure to join you at this general IGF meeting. So they're very vital issues that on your house pointed out I would just begin by sharing an experience of a colleague, a student friend, who had had to take a math test during the COVID period and how to do this via a smart tutoring system. Apparently, a student was wondering where at the time and didn't do very well in the math tests. So I had to take the tests anyway because there was an opportunity to retake the test after that time, so it didn't do very well and then you know, from then on, for some odd reason started getting adverts about maths improvement textbooks and free online classes for maths, tutorials and maths teachers in the neighborhood. So apparently, the students had already become a target for micro advertising. And you know how to deal with that issue for a while and share that experience with me and this brought my thoughts to some of the very critical implications of AI especially in the context of educational technologies. How is data being used data that is collected from edtech systems? How is this data being used after or before the fact? Oftentimes, you know, building smart tutoring systems requires the student profiles are kept, generated and kept across a grading across assessment across attendance, probably across class interruptions, across tutorial tutorials, but then, after the semester, and after the class ends, how do students what control do students have over how their data is used? And you know, across the world, we still have data protection regimes that are still emerging. In many jurisdictions. These data protection regimes do not yet have provisions that extend into the implications of AI. In Nigeria, for example, we are working towards a data protection regime. And I'm aware that a few countries across West Africa and Africa in general are still trying to structure data protection regimes to meet up with the emerging technology framework that we see around AI and machine learning automated decision systems. And the fact that much control as is not is not given to the data subjects themselves is a cause for concern. You know, at the start of the pandemic, we began to see the emergence and adoption of edtech systems and technologies across board, but then the students were given only to see and to to control over what to adopt and how they're going to use the system. So how the systems are going to impact their lives. So we can about informed consent and data protection and surveillance. All of these issues are burning issues and then they they come to be in the context of educational systems and AI generally, and annual raises a very interesting case about the tensions between intellectual property of AI systems and intellectual property of, of humans across borders and then also the concern about who take liability in the self driving car incidents. These are discussions that are ongoing, and these are these are called points of concern that stakeholders need to pay attention to when discussing AI systems. These are just a few thoughts I have to share and I'll yield the floor back for other speakers.

Unknown Speaker
Thank you. All right. Thank you. Thank you so much for your cheering on it. Do you have anything to add? Before we move on?

Anja Gengo
I think we can move on and I certainly can come in later but it would be really good to hear from our colleagues. What do they find they find facilities topics interesting. And what's very much important for capacity development framework that the IETF is also pursuing, but I'm sure brother as well is are these topics discussed in your communities and are they present through practices because countries are differing in terms of the application of the AI? Definitely,

Unknown Speaker
that's a really good guiding question for for we to start and open to for for the discussion. We have enough time and my row here I will try to keep a queue and then do speak up because the way I'm always really depend on what you guys talking and then we'll we'll find something but before that actually would like to share a document with you guys because there's a link that we can actually put all our comments in it. And this is really important because not only in this session, because after the session we can always improve the points that we brought up here today, and then work on it. It's really simple. I tried to simplify the length, you can access this and directly commented it. But then on sites or online actually, anyone would like to comment on on our speaker sharings and then if you have any thoughts, please do raise your hand. I will I will try to keep a queue here right now. I saw a hand at the back. And here, sir. Okay. So I will I'll pass it on to you. First. Please mention your names and affiliation before you speak up. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker
Thank you so much. I am looking in there. I'm from Bangalore, India, I'm doing PhD there. So the question of trust was discussed in the presentation. And I have a comment on trust. So I think there's a lack of trust or people don't know whether they can trust technology because we do not know how technology is essentially working. This whole black box problem for example, in AI, we know we do not know how AI is making a decision in the medical field. When AI is deployed, I think it makes life and death decisions. And so trust becomes an issue there. And even if AI were to become explainable. AI is based on neural networks. It's so technically complex that a layperson a non technical person will find it very difficult to understand. So how do you develop a language to communicate with masses, how technology actually works? So we are in a unique situation right now I feel so even though we do not trust technology, or we find it difficult to trust, we find ourselves surrounded by it all the time, like the latest technological products, just because of the sheer utility. So a question that I would like everyone to ponder over is, can the utility of technological products always subdue the question of trust and keep it in background? Thank you.

Unknown Speaker
Thank you so much for the comment that's pointing out like trust is really important. That's also resonates to our theme here today. Also, I believe, is there any one wants to comment back? Because I know Sure. Thank you so much, Evan.

Vinayak Hegde
Thank you.

Unknown Speaker
I'm un from Indonesia. I'm also makin ID Indonesia. IGF is actually but this is the first time I'm joining a meeting outside Indonesia. So So basically, I have also comment about the AI. So especially in the medical. So for instance, if mothers and a child is sick and by calculations, the mother has more opportunity than the child is like an ethical also questions. But how will you decide to save which one because the mother will give away her life right. But then how are you will decide? So I think we are since AI is advancing really fast. I think for sure. We need a proper governance on how AI works. So this Yep. Think that's my comment.

Unknown Speaker
Thank you so much. Does Anya or a minute or anyone in this room like to directly respond to the two comments? Yeah, by Oh sure. Please go ahead.

Emmanuel C. Ogu
Alright, thank you. So, so the first comment was very interesting. Talking about trust and AI. Now this is what happens. So there are two active players in in the discussion around AI and products and services. There are government and then there are private companies, as one researcher put it, you know, when when governments you know, give you AI products and require you to, you know, see the trust and return or privacy. They offer you better security, they'll feel better public services. But then when private companies you know, ask you to you know, say trust or privacy they seem to have a better utilities, more effects the effectiveness or efficiency and performance tasks and likes. But then you know, it's Do we really have to have a tension whenever we need to multiply something to trade plus or to be a give something for something situation whenever we have to talk about AI and that is the trust problem. Can't we have AI is that you know, we can choose from an informed place where we can, where we understand how this AI is working, where we understand how this AI is going to use our data. We understand how our trust frameworks and our privacy has been affected by the way the courts and recently in a recent workshop that I had the opportunity of speaking at. One of the propositions that emanated was the fact that we could, you know, incentivize the algorithmic auditing of AI products and services, so that you know, what, one way or the other companies or AI vendors who provide these products and services,

Amrita Choudhury
they they want you to,

Emmanuel C. Ogu
you know, patronize the services they want you to adopt to the services that's that's that's the business model. Okay. But then when trust is not clear when how privacy and trust has been affected is not clear. This this services don't actually get the the full potential that they deserve or desire in the markets. So is there a way to incentivize algorithmic auditing of AI products and services so that we have aI products and services that you know, people are totally understand this black box? mist around how they function and this blog post cloud on how to function? And you know, being able to choose them from a more informed perspectives? I think this is this is actually going to be a is one system or a framework where AI will be able to compete more fairly on AI products and services whether we're going to compete more fairly and in a more incentivized more incentivized format and then trust can be built from that framework. That is one recommendation that that I have seen on the table in that regard. And you know, I just thought to put that down.

Unknown Speaker
Thank you money for your respond. And I saw that in the room we have how many? How many hands? I saw hands earlier from

Chandra
Stella, right. Okay,

Unknown Speaker
you wait, go ahead.

Unknown Speaker
Good afternoon, my mom from the Philippines as AI becomes more popular and we use it every day. We should anticipate prepare for event while government regulation. So maybe we should discuss what kind of regulation will boost AI what kind of regulation we should welcome what kind of regulation we should reject. So at this point, we should at least early we should discuss AI to policymakers, so that they will not enforce regulation that will not really benefit society. All right.

Unknown Speaker
Thank you so much for the opportunity. So my name is Stella representing that mission and part of the Y GF organizing committee. So I'll just take the discussion out of AI for a moment. I just wanted to mention that in the Y IGF we also did base our discussions around what we believe that we see as the new ABCs of Internet governance. So we covered algorithm bias instead, big data and cybercrime as well as our second session focused around emerging technology, which is growing up with the metaverse and virtual reality and NF Ts. So we did want to highlight that some of the input that we got from our participants and speakers was that, for example, evolvement in the metaverse and NFT itself does have an impact on youth perspective on intellectual property. So the way we interact with how we believe like, for instance, avatars, if we want to look like idols, it's actually an infringement of interoperability and copyright that hasn't really been thought about and hasn't really been discussed in terms of how youth are going to adhere to it. And also would like to highlight that we we did surround our discussions a lot about digital citizenship, also with emphasis on moving from digital literacy towards adding a responsibility and being proactive and productive members of the Internet ecosystem to achieve a sort of youth digital citizenship. So we did want to mention that we are acknowledging the Transforming Technologies around us. And we, as from the why, Jeff session, we do believe that, you know, currently our goal would be to achieve that kind of digital citizenship. With the basis of digital literacy. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker
Hi, my name is pasta. I'm from India. I am a little doubtful about my qualification as a huge stakeholder. But I would still, this is more of a comment on what I saw in today's presentation. I think one of the key things that particularly affects youth as a group is mental health issues, especially when it comes to recommender systems and the way it works. I feel because youth are quite impressionable. We've seen that there have been quite a lot of studies around the kind of mental health impact it has on people, how it has impacted the way their personalities develop, etc. I feel like it's a very under discussed issue in like most spaces, but I just wanted to sort of highlight that that should also be a concern when thinking about problems with artificial intelligence

Vinayak Hegde
systems, that's all. Hi, this is

Achia Nila
Neela from Bangladesh. So there is an issue is trust and I think if we get some a policy and we write something like some discriminator and AI system like this application or this system driven by AI, so you, you all you're all that given data, grabbed by AI so you need to think about data protections and you before you input any given given any input in this system, you need to think of how much you want to share. So I think we need to teach this type of literacy to the people. And then we can minimize integrate problem in and it will be more trustful for the users the creating some policy before installation the application and subscribers

Amrita Choudhury
please go ahead.

Unknown Speaker
We'll have another comment and then quickly summarize a little bit then we go to that. The other two, okay.

Unknown Speaker
Okay, hello.

Unknown Speaker
I am Leah from Indonesia. So a lot of a yacht in Indonesia is the biggest issue is about how they are feeling insecure about what they see from the social media, because they want to be something about the lifestyle and like that, and if they not do that, they have like the cyberbullying from them because, you know, it's like that's me, insecure, and then the mental mental breakdown down because of that. And that's really, really the biggest issue and then when they don't, like they don't give the expect of the people what they see. They will like chasing what they want, like from the easy money something like that. And then this like illegal and like doing like that this the biggest issue in in this in this country like that. Okay, thank you.

Unknown Speaker
Thank you so much for the comment. And thank you so much for the reminder on the on the chat also because we have so much common on the document really to scroll it down, for sure. We have multiple comments for sure. Pointing out with all the comments realized with digital transformation. It's not only affecting our work and education, but all aspect because like pointing out there's like data protection issues and stuff. So that's it had PIO and then we will have a gentleman here at the front. Please go ahead.

Unknown Speaker
Hello, everyone. I'm cured from Yamaha. And then wind Yep. I'm the project coordinator of the wind gem Newmar as well as Michelle has set up a new fellow I would like to share about my experience relating to the data protection. I have I got a chance to talk with the executive level or senior senior exec deliver who are from Phoenicia, Sutter. And she that that is my Xperia what I Barranca Is she really don't care about that data of the customer even she is walking out one of the biggest furniture service Kemeny in Myanmar. We have tried to talk about the policy that that are related to the poor that the customer data but she will reply me like this. She only really care about if we care about those kinds of things. It might be a move forward. Quickly. For us like I did I share this story because I always mentioned that private sector is lacking and we have to push the private sector events the government to regulate the to protests and events, the events or policy that should be Davos and we also should encourage the private sector to engage in the Internet governance community as well. To response our data. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker
Thank you so much. My name is Abdullah for the record, I think for achieving the all of the goals participants sharing the next new global language is scripting. So I will talk about metaverse, you talk about IoT you talk about blockchain. The policy thing is upside but you need a hands on skill to tweak with the with the computer like your win-win on what so there is a thing that is called no code or less code. So you should learn the non technical people should learn these skill set an ad this in the queue as well. So this is a situation from my site. So I

Unknown Speaker
have a question about the trust when we are speaking about it and so on the death of one

Unknown Speaker
thing, majority of the development of AI is from a profit company, right? And then there is this government as a stakeholder is the decision maker and we as a community that is in the Internet Society as you you keep not you with we are trying to have this multi stakeholder reason. But how do we address this power imbalance between these profit company in government who can decide anything, but then we also want to have a voice but then because trust is about you trust somebody to use their power right? government or private company can easily do that without so much repercussion. So how can we address this so the power imbalance will not be as

Chandra
big as I feel that we have. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker
So is your name again? Sorry. What was your name again?

Unknown Speaker
Hi, I'm Ellen Kuzma. from Indonesia, APR IGF 2020. So hello, thank you.

Unknown Speaker
Thank you so much, Ellen. This is really good point about chakras. And I'm sure there will be some respond to it because it's a really interesting point. But before I would like to open the floor to anyone to respond to all is common here. I saw a hand from our remote participations

Vinayak Hegde
Ooh mood with us

Unknown Speaker
if you're speaking we can't hear you. Can you hear us? All right, I believe there. So now I can hear you now. All right.

Unknown Speaker
Okay. Go ahead.

Unknown Speaker
Well, my opinion about the this topic or artificial intelligence is that we

Unknown Speaker
speak up a little bit. Sorry, it's a bit too soft,

Unknown Speaker
in my opinion about artificial intelligence is that we don't see this dystopic something, a genetic as something that is what we see it as it's at different stages or different stages in a process and not something that is happening at all those stages happening at the same time. For example, when you're deploying assets and you're designing at the same time, you are the attentive buyers in this technology. And at the same time, you are like you are doing some auditing to these technologies.

Unknown Speaker
I heard someone said we want he wants to comment, right? I heard someone's wanting to comment from here, because we are behind schedule so we can only take one more comment or respond that we may have to pass it to Alberto to wrap up, because we have prepared something to summarize all the comments here for our

Vinayak Hegde
session. Comments on site. chance

Unknown Speaker
I will take it as a no but then. Oh, James, James at the back from what as you have got a comment,

Vinayak Hegde
I believe, James. Do we

Unknown Speaker
have and as I mentioned in our chat, my question is existing digital geopolitics, especially here in Asia Pacific that enhances artificial intelligence, most likely in the least economically resilient communities.

Unknown Speaker
Thank you, James. So Manu or Anya as the keynote speaker, would you like to respond or anyone in the room so quickly do we can quickly address that before we move on to do the summary on your

Anja Gengo
thank you for a very difficult question and definitely can respond with one line. There is one thing that I think goes goes to respond to your question is to think about some of you mentioned that we need to understand how to govern the AI then you were mentioning some particular stakeholders. In mentioning the particular stakeholders, you often refer to governments, the private sector, the businesses as the key designers of these types of technologies, but I think it's very important for awareness raising and for creating our action points after this session. We must not forget the research community, the academic community, those coming from non governmental, and especially those that know how, from a technical point of view, these technologies work and can be designed. And that's very important technical communities and civil society as equals to be involved in the overall framework of the governance of the Internet, in terms of geopolitics, especially in Asia Pacific, but also globally. It's a very difficult question, but it's not of course, it's possible to do it. In terms of AI, the AI goes in different areas of law. So it's very difficult to speak about governing the AI without speaking about the domain which will govern and that's why at the beginning, I was mentioning for example, the self driving cars or vehicles or for example, the question of patent or the question of facial recognition. Those are particular areas that need to be looked at and the loan to understand how the AI can apply there. And therefore, that's why on a national level, you have a strong shift. Speaking from the international perspective, where national jurisdictions are taking actions in their hands and coming up with concrete legislation, that legislation often is different. If you look at the court decisions, for example, at the beginning, what I was mentioning, their decisions are different. Some of the colleagues here are from Australia, for example, the way you can apply patent or the intellectual property rights on the creation that's been created by a machine. What's different between overthrown one decision was that you cannot and then there was another decision that you can, the US is very clear that you cannot because there's no human touch, but if you look in Germany, for example, it's a different decision. If you look at how the AI applies to self autonomous cars, for example, then you will see that in Singapore if there are colleagues from Singapore, there are still still struggles and the current legislation which you apply on on any normal car regular car applies to these types of car, which is unfortunately not not relevant anymore to the type of technology so type of a car that we have these days. And the same is another so I think the question is really about the type of technology what we want to regulate. And that's the area I think of the geopolitical environment that we have to to understand.

Unknown Speaker
Thank you, Anya, I believe Joyce want to give a few words to

Anju Mangal
I don't have a few words. I actually I just want to pull the room. Right. So we've heard a lot today about AI. We've heard many comments, opinions about biases about trial. So what I want to do now is pull the room so you guys are still awake. So do you agree that AI makes your life more convenient? Yes, yes, first. Generally, I see lots of yeses, no. Yes. Who says no. So you say yes. Or no. So maybe we do we have I don't know.

Amrita Choudhury
Okay, so,

Anju Mangal
I don't know. Okay, we have one I don't know. So So generally, we seem to all agree AI is making our lives.

Vinayak Hegde
Right. So next question.

Anju Mangal
Do you trust AI to make decisions for you? Yes, first. Yes. That's not gonna hit yes. This.

Vinayak Hegde
Oh, no, no. No. So

Anju Mangal
I don't know. Anybody on the fence. I'm not sure if I am okay with AI making decisions for me.

Vinayak Hegde
What was that?

Anju Mangal
Conditional so it depends, right? So it depends. So I really just want these two questions. You can see there's tension right. We all want to use AI and to have AI in our lives because we see the convenience we see the benefits, etc. But there are all these issues and ailments and problems still associated with it, but don't really trust it. So I think that is kind of a nice sort of interactive way of summarizing the session. But it's about why why are we talking about this in Internet governance

Unknown Speaker
All right, thank you Joyce for making you know waking everyone up and then know what we are actually doing here today because we have a lot of comment and then apologies. We always have like do not have enough time for all these kinds of discussions because these are like really important. But before we actually like officially wrap this up. I would like to invite Mauritius to give us a quick summary and also Nicholas online to tell us what's next after this you've tracked session because the fourth use dry session will rotate to the Latin America, IGF and reserves you with us right now

Mauricia Cindy Abdol
and thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. And greetings everyone in the room and goodness. Nemec discussions. And we started off if you can remember with the question of curricula in schools in digital policy, and the fact that there is a lack of exposure to AI in the space we've gone on and progressed to different modalities in in the EdTech sector which Dr. Agusta wonderful to share and how how much autonomy we have when it comes to deciding how much of this do we sign up for our students, as you know, whether you're on university level or otherwise. And it's important to note that even while studying a particular program that the program still has access to your data, but you might not have access to determine how that data is used. What an interesting question, indeed, and it spoke so much to our point earlier. Do we trust AI? Do we trust it to make decisions for us to be trusted, to protect our identities to protect our information to protect our decisions in life because as human beings we are progressing and changing every day? Yes, so many questions as well that we raised 91% of us said, Well, I have been experiencing AI but 43% of us are the only ones that said well, I would trust it, right. We want to therefore what policy is saying when it comes to AI certain decisions that are being made really comes to regulating AI in our various spaces. And we mentioned a myriad of comments here as you can see, on questions that I can control people that are in the decision making seat, how much of it can they control and what should they be paying attention to? And I would encourage us in the room I know we do not have a lot of time for Steven mentioned some of the comments here right now. But I would encourage us in the room to leave the discussion here. It's important that you now take up the baton and begin to stimulate these discussions in your own areas because there's another dynamic that I haven't mentioned which is the gender dynamic, how this is affecting women compared to males in a different space. As you even know that this is touching the tip of the iceberg we will be to have continued to be the champions of those discussions and thank you so much for your time. And I leave the floor to Anya to continue and Jane as well to continue wrapping up our session and I celebrate each and every one of you for commenting and for being so aware of exactly how much we need to put our eyes on on AI because it's not just it's not just the government and the private sector that needs to regulate this but us. All of us have a role to play and it's important that we step up and take our space. Thank you so much

Unknown Speaker
for summarizing our session and taking a lead of taking all the notes with all the commented. Can we have like one last minute from Nicolas to invite all of us to the next to next year's track session and Latin American IGF Nicholas one minute then we have to end the session and pass it back to our hosts. Thank you.

Nicolas Fiumarelli
And you're saying I am very happy to be here we got a few other they seem to have the upright chef. This was an interesting water. I would like to say some more and more than clear that there is a gap between public policies and advances of technology right now meaning also about AI but they also metaverse IoT and quantum computing. There are existing concerns of bias me there's a big gap to write. Sasha mentioned this last part of the session was part of the YouTrack ASIC printer connected capacity meeting worships to develop the capacity and the concept of digitalization, right to look into the opportunity, some policy challenges in these to the policy makers. Well, this was specifically the worship three we have already gone through three workshops. The first one at UD is shown engaging when I'm talking digital transformation. The second one is fricken ICF in Malawi in July. This one worship will take place on September 24 in the concept of the youth like the title of digital information, and your opportunities, but we will digital policy. And you know that the outcomes of these workshops will see the ICF the 2020 jeweler valued services by Janya which will be hosted there 17 If you know the survey by the age of normally 2022. So I would like to say that this not at we are very glad to have a lot of different groups and youth engaged in these activities. And I would like to invite all the young people and experts also present today to shine this worship because we have seen an opportunity to take a lead leadership and you can have your leadership at your local youth initiatives as well to continuous changing and and hopefully we will meet all of you are the survivor.

Unknown Speaker
Thank you Nicholas.

Unknown Speaker
Thank you so much for everyone who actually contributed participated on sign online because of the time for over running a little bit but I would like to pass the time back to you to host thank you so much everyone for being so active

Ashirwad Tripathy
in the session. Thank you, Jana, and thank you global Nigeria for this insightful session. A lot of information to take, but it's not an exam. It's not a test. It's not necessary that you need to understand everything now. You guys have the link. You guys have the connection. So they're always open to your comments. So please do it. Being that being said I want to move to the last part of our session or a second last part of our session. The last part is again the game that we started. So I would like to call upon Dr. Satish Babu, Chair of ABC to give the closing remarks and

Unknown Speaker
way forward.

Satish Babu
Thank you very much Ashirwad. This is Satish and I am from the APC on behalf of my colleagues from the APC, APC and the community. I must say that I'm really overwhelmed to be here. We had a huge bunch of meetings for planning out this joint she started way back some 456 months back. It's very gratifying to see that we I mean the energy in the first part of the game in this room was really awesome. Like to congratulate everybody for having made it here today. I will not speak any further I'll pass on the mic to my colleague Sagarika.

Sagarika Wickramasekara
afternoon, everyone, we have just concluded our APC and I hope you have enjoyed that and there are some people who are not in a paycheck and I think you have heard about APC Girl Yeah. Who does not heard about APC?

Unknown Speaker
Oh, I know two people be there. So

Sagarika Wickramasekara
me speaking APC APC is Asia Pacific School of Internet governance. We are we intended to train leaders in the Internet of the Asia Pacific region, actually the capacity building. So this time we were able to now had our seventh round of Asia Pacific School of Internet governance. So we have concluded that 28 participants and we got some good and bad flat. So hearing that we are planning to move forward with many many future plans and one is that including the inclusion so we have already initiated back in last June we have initiated a training program to train Disability Leadership Program in digital rights and Internet governance. So we are planning to move looking for a way forward with that as well as another capacity building programs in future so I hope you all will be joining us and get more knowledge with us. Thank you.

Ashirwad Tripathy
Thank you saga Rica. So the episode is over APR AGF has just begun, and your journey has also just begun. So I would like to again call upon you to give a one minute just one minute test.

Anju Mangal
Okay, so this whole session we had so many acronyms Am I correct acronyms ABC AP Nick APR IGF, but what else?

Unknown Speaker
global IGF AI Okay, AI Artificial Intelligence. Did you get it? Did you get everything?

Anju Mangal
I don't we don't expect you to get everything today. But I'm gonna invite the MSG APNIC aprs APC to just for one minute. For those ones that can stand up. I'm not expecting everyone to stand up. Sorry, Cheryl's.

Unknown Speaker
Please stand up. Look at them carefully. Please stand up everyone.

Anju Mangal
Right you see all these people standing up through what the week I want you to go up to them. Ask them okay, how does APR IGF linked to a new? How does APNIC linked to APC? You are the ones that need to ask this forum is about you. This whole week is about you. Okay? Yes. Okay, now, stand up. And we'll do the final session before we let you go. I promise it's going to be fun

Amrita Choudhury
interactive. I mean, because

Ashirwad Tripathy
I just So final thing. Remember that we'll have to take a good grip picture. But before we wrap up, I want our youth why if people give their closing remarks, and note that this event is about you, speaking of you, interacting, you engaging and once that's done, we have a networking option where play the game that we started, so if you could just give them and Luke please listen to them.

Unknown Speaker
Hi, everyone. Thank you all so much. Were standing for us. Just kidding. But Hi, my name is Bella. I'm one of the Y IGF part of the YG rising committee. Apologies for letting you all stand up. Maybe y'all can sit down real quick.

Unknown Speaker
Excuse me.

Ashirwad Tripathy
Excuse me. We're not done yet. Can you please take your seat so that our y IGF representatives give a closing remark?

Amrita Choudhury
I promise you it won't be long

Unknown Speaker
restarted again

Vinayak Hegde
Are you almost at the end

Swaran Ravindra
of the event so please just take a seat agenda

Unknown Speaker
Okay, everyone, I think we'll just

Unknown Speaker
sorry, ties cool moving forward, right? We got too excited. But then I want you back to her something about wave like moving forward and future opportunities, including all the like all the forms that you can continue engagement after this event or something for you guys, but we got too excited. So let me pass the baton to Luke and back to continue this quick like really quickly on how we can engage the participating in this conference so apology on getting too excited too. Early. So I'll pass it on to you.

Luke Teoh
We'll be moving forward. Okay, next slide, please. Alright. Okay, so I'm from New York, to youth expert to Global Youth expert. So starting off that is a Pacific youth digest 2022 which we we just finished wrapping up and then moving on to APR you have to enter into which is right now and moving on to ICANN qualitative info where myself and my sister from that's next week. Next slide. We have IGF 22 Addis Ababa and I can send this section Cancun and then we have ICANN 77 in Washington DC next day peace. Alright, so I think all these things really just depend on what your interests are just so many of them. And like you can search out which ones really interest you and pique your interest in them. And just

Unknown Speaker
like what Andrew mentioned a while ago, when a lot of the APNIC and other fellows from ICANN or IGF. They stood up, trying to reach out to them like what Andrew mentioned, and ask them how all of these are interconnected and an excellent

Unknown Speaker
so you can also subscribe to the mailing list. And I myself have been helping out with net missions mailing lists. So if you receive that's me, and the website is over there, and those interested in IGF initiatives can head over to the links. I think these slides will be made available. And you can also subscribe to eprdf News. And updates or join the multistakeholder

Vinayak Hegde
Stingray. Next slide. Can Apex

Unknown Speaker
bass. Yeah, ICANN is happening soon and this space is packed community members. Jeroen ucfb can correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what we have so far community that bimonthly sessions web conference or Facebook meetings. And it will be a practice ground to facilitate community discussions, ICANN participation Next slide please.

Unknown Speaker
Okay, so here are some of the platforms or programs that all of the youth can join all of us. I feel like we're all youths in here of course, we have of course we are pretty biased netmission Academy here. We also have next gen at ICANN ICANN fellowship APNIC fellowship and Youth Ambassador Program. Next slide please. We also have our online resources. I know some people at the back cannot see some of the links but of course, these will all be available to you. Next slide please. What can we do at the national level? So we have the fundings for initiatives. These are of course if you want to create your own initiative in your in your country or locally. You can talk to Jennifer Jennifer knows a lot about this so you can reach out to her if you guys want to start up your own initiative. Next slide, please.

Chandra
Next slide. All right.

Unknown Speaker
Do we have the dot Aja Let's all stay connected. This is a Facebook page. So we would like to always stay connected with one another because we all have, of course different opinions and we wanted to do to one another and we want to listen to each other's opinions. So this is a great place where we can stay connected for future references and of course, next slide, please. Thank you. So again, we're here to promote Of course, what else are we here to do? netmission Academy 2020 We're Roodman myself and Luke, we've been ambassadors. Yes, we've been here for quite some time. Maybe Luke, you want to share

Unknown Speaker
really your experience?

Unknown Speaker
I actually joined the Mission Academy with my sister Stella and being here. I think one year doing IG related stuff. Yep.

Unknown Speaker
Well, on the other hand, I have been a part of why IgM since I was for those who know me I have been a part of why JF since I was 16 years old. Now I'm turning 23 Next month, although as you can see right now my height is still 16 but I'm moving forward but I just like to share I graduated in a field of information technology and it was a field filled with men and I was one out of three females. I would like to relate that to joint being a part of it sphere. When I was in the ITU World I wanted to be better than all of them and for youth. I think I can relate that to the youth or us youth. We want to do best and be better and just keep you know improving and make an impact in this IG sphere. And I hope you guys can do the same and maybe it may be joining that mission or other items that we shared can really help you in your IG. Journey. Yes. But again, thank you so much and we hope to see you in the week. Thank you.

Swaran Ravindra
Thank you very much. Thank you for bearing with us. I know that there's been a little bit of hiccups, we sort of changed the arrangement and you all bear with us. So thank you very much for that. Now, this is especially for our fellows just remember this session was especially for you. We have been speaking about all the important stakeholders, some some of us have even spoken about some specific topics from my Internet governance, it's not so easy to achieve. Right but here together to do our bits. But if you look around the room, as Andrew has mentioned already we've got some mentors, we've got some past fellows and representatives from APNIC from a PRGF. Okay, and of course IGF global IGF youth IGF. So, please do speak to each other, get to know each other, so that if you need help, just know that we all are here for you, as you read and I also mentors. So just a very quick one for our fellows. We've done with the zero now, you know there's so many different topics to know about. We don't have to understand them all today, right? Trust me, I've been a fellow for for two years. I've been selected as a fellow twice but till date, I'm still trying to learn about all the functions that these different organizations to do. So you don't have to get it all right, but please keep asking us questions we try to be as as inclusive as we can. Do not hesitate to ask us questions. And do not forget that the synthesis document, there's an open invitation to all of you. I think it would be a very good idea for the mentors to speak to their fellows and try to nominate one person from the group to join the synthesis document committee, committee, and also a three let's not forget about our five minutes sessions right. Speak to your mentors get prepared if you have any difficulties. You do speak to premium well we are here as well. Make sure you prepare well. But we are with you all the way okay.

Ashirwad Tripathy
Okay with that being said, I think as Sri wants to speak so this would be the last time and yeah, we can always informally talk with each other we have this working option. And let's take a picture before we leave okay, we want memories.

Unknown Speaker
Thank you for the opportunity. I'm sorry, right Evita from Sam Moore. I'm have a question for the global IETF and some was in the Pacific. And I want to ask, Why aren't there more Pacific islands in this global ITF? Yeah, makes me but we are in this one global world. So being represented a representative from somewhere in the Pacific. So it's a bit sad, but thankful that we have some people that sponsoring me to come here now to listen in this platform. I know it's a discussion for for Internet covenants will be very interesting to you and your to learn from you guys and maybe share because our it's a it's for them. It's a multi stakeholder I understand and I know this is a multi stakeholder discussion platform so I think we need to talk more about the community not just ourselves, but it's for the community. Thank you

Unknown Speaker
Oh, thank you very much for your question. We've actually had a fellow working at the IGF Secretariat from Samoa we just trying to find her name. No, it wasn't a viola

Unknown Speaker
no before

Unknown Speaker
some foot Yes. Okay. So Viola from summer Yes. And we have a very loud person from Fiji. So the South Pacific islands

Unknown Speaker
have been represented. And of course they can be represented more, especially since we also started the suds IDF. So we do encourage people from the small island developing states to come into the idea of and we do pay, but particularly to them providing funding etc. So it's too late, often by this Ababa, but for next year, especially since it's going to be in jeopardy, which is in the region. Please come forward. And we will we are in full support Oh, yes.

Swaran Ravindra
Thank you very much. So we'll take a photo but in a selfie mode, because we don't wonder is this right? Here we'll just we'll try to just turn around. Everyone's gonna come here Okay, please.

Swaran Ravindra
You can put your masks on if you are a little hesitant about too. Much.

Ashirwad Tripathy
Are we gonna fit there?

Unknown Speaker
To say this,

Anju Mangal
I'm short as well, but the short ones please come forward. Please.

Unknown Speaker
I'm short. I'm short as well so Okay,

Unknown Speaker
last straw if we can sit around that will be great. Man, good community. Don't worry about high level. Sit down.

Unknown Speaker
I'm gonna come and sit with you. So sit and

Unknown Speaker
do I'll get some money

Unknown Speaker
I promise people like me

Unknown Speaker
we can make this thing happen tomorrow and say yes. Yes.

Anja Gengo
We can make everything happen.

Unknown Speaker
Yes