We will be hearing from our esteemed gas to will talk to little bit later and then we are opening the floor to the audience on the floor and online for suggestions that you have a want to hear from you were questions about creating a safe space for children online as well as anything you might hear from her speakers and maybe a quick introduction what is a top-level domain? Anybody? Why are we here if we don't know what that is? So to the right of that..com or.org and.kids why is that to have more stronger policies and this is an Internet space that is for children and by children and needs to be a safe space for them to explore and learn and grow without being exposed to more unsavory content on the Internet that probably is when other platforms as well. So talking about the mission and vision we are trying to create and foster in online space with kids best interest at heart to be sustainable to children's rights and welfare initiative with digital rights. Does anybody know the definition of children? So for.kids we are basing our guidelines under the UN convention of the rights of the child and this is the most signed signatory instrument for us in the road that defines children as those under 18 for the kids guiding principles to take a lot of it from this document you can see there are bullets we want to concentrate on the children's right to protection to survival and freedom of expression because it seems quite broad is protection from unsavory content from gambling and tobacco are things that are not age-appropriate for children and if we are looking at the right to privacy the second bullet point is talking a lot by data privacy in general they have a right to privacy the third to survival is the contents not to seek content that promotes the taking of life and suicide and of course the last one is self-explanatory with the freedom of expression they are able to post what they are thinking and learn and grow and explore. And also besides being prohibitive of things you want to encourage content kid friendly and children friendly to grow in the same space kid friendly content guide to adhere to nondiscrimination in marketing and advertising relation to children we have to be particularly sensitive it is not explaining them were to push any unsavory or inappropriate materials or services to children it is categorization for kids there is a sliding range child can be anywhere from zero through 18 and the appropriateness of content really does change as the child ages and then going to security policy development those policies that govern the namespace. And with those initiatives to look at what really is best for children in terms of protection as well as allowing them to express themselves which brings me to the point to look at children's participation I thank you have heard a lot about representation so we want to hear from children themselves and what they want to see in the namespace don't want to be to prescriptive and we need to get them the freedom and then the multi- stakeholders collaboration all of you in the room you are part of the multi- stakeholder and welfare organizations that all of you are a part of the multi- stakeholder collaborative efforts and we want to hear what you think. I don't want to waste too much time on these bullets but we want to hear from our guest. Introducing our guest beakers right next to me in the room we have our public policy manager and content regulation based here in Singapore online a chairwoman and project manager and based in Germany thank you for joining us online I know it is very early for you in Germany's so in Q for you participating we have the youth delegate and maybe you heard of speaker ready part of net nation.asia so I really want to ask Jesse what it is for meta, what do we need to look out for how is that regulation in terms of targeted to children? And what is the framework and with the takedown and the policies that govern this. >> Thank you. Nice to meet you and with those issues that we look after child safety and woman safety. And with the and talk about online safety when they talk to children so for me is that from the types of content from the types of content they are creating online which could put them in danger and then the people they are interacting with that could be dangerous or in appropriate. And these are not exclusive if you look at bad content then you could produce that content and so here we use a combination of policies product tools and features to ensure that all these different aspects of safety and our community standards is the set of policies that govern what content is not allowed on the platforms is applied to all users as a baseline that includes child exploitation and bullying and harassment and on top of the baseline communities to go a step further to restrict certain types of content that could be okay for the general public but so examples of this with graphic content because we know that children could not be development on –- developmentally ready from that we might not want our children to be exposed to so what we are thinking that as he moved to the future we think about recommendations and so for this it is the content that could be okay on the platform if we are recommending pushing it to the user without the medicating they want to see it and they need to have a stricter set of policies in place is this how we have the content. And then in large amounts because struggling with body image issues and to be overly exposed is something that we want to avoid honor platforms. So I can give an example of product design making it safer for children from the get-go so we think about age-appropriate and how we can protect them from the first Place we introduce privacy by default settings and so today signing up for a new account on Instagram below the age of 16 is automatically set to private by default with the content you are creating and putting out there only your close friends can see it and having a private account protects you from being approached by bad actors who may have bad intentions and in terms of interaction we also stop that actors from looking for young people on the platform so we look at signals if you have other minor accounts we will fight you for inappropriate behavior and then to prevent you from reaching other children on the platforms of these are examples taking a comprehensive multilayered approach. >> Thank you for the comprehensives summary of what that it is doing I mindful of time so next tell us about the situation in Europe as well as globally and the work you are doing with children's rights. >> Of course. I'm happy to do so. Advocating children's rights especially predictions of environment in the things that we're doing now general comment number 25 and with the environment and that we base everything on that. And as you may know it was published by the UN committee from last year in March I think and the states ratified especially in regard to protect the children but also ensuring their rights to freedom of expression. So those to create a safe space for children it is an obligation for the states for safe space but also for the platform providers. But how can we do that? It is not an easy task it is very complex that may come along for children and we are talking about sexual abuse material spread on the Internet. But we do think that it provides for a unique opportunity and then we need to be aware if it creates such a playground with those perpetrators and we need to ensure the space is still cap safe for children. That means we need respective safeguards that they have the appropriate content in the safe space they are protected from an appropriate content and interaction with people that they need to be aware of any restriction of the safe space the children's access to other users that have been impact of rights to freedom and freedom of expression and we need a balanced approach. And with that draft regulation that is underway. And then with freedom of expression. >> Thank you for the comprehensive look it always is a fine balance as well as upholding the children's right of freedom of expression that potential of growth but swinging back to Asia and talk to the generations the participants. Stella Wyatt is online safety to you and what you hope to see in the space? >> We believe for generations he is included because we are in the transition phase to be acknowledged as children and perhaps bigger responsibilities so when it comes to our relations perhaps a new perspective is because we are more aware some things you want to explore and also given more freedom and some parents may also feel once you reach a certain age they do feel the responsibility is passed on to the individual youth as opposed to how they feel about children. I like to comment and then for the IGF 2022 but four.kids it is allowed for parents to register under.kids so something we have seen with teefour there is a prevalence of cases where parents are using their kids for clout and to stay relevant in a way and this needs to be discussed because safeguards that kids may want to consider since you are giving them that. Also mentioning earlier looking at policies in the general sense cultural differences across the world. And that parenting child relationship is received I would highlight that need to be considered more one-way and with that representation of the multi- stakeholder dialogue. And it is relevant to the context with the representation of children. >> Think use Stella there is cultural sensitivities even within our own region with tradition as well as things I've learned from previous generations it is still quite difficult for children to speak up and speak their mind we hope it's an opportunity for them to express themselves freely. We know we only have half an hour we have one third of the time to the people in the room so online participants if you have comments or questions please put it in the chat and people in the room please feel free to come up to the microphone because children are vulnerable that we still want to give them the freedom and space to be able to use the Internet and the way that benefits their growth. Anybody from the audience? I promise there will be prizes. I see one coming up. >> I am from Korea and I have a question that in some specific countries I feel it is censored oil and then we can try to help them. >> Is that a question you want to direct specifically to anybody on the panel? >> I think government regulation is one of those that you don't complain you are out of the country but that approach we take here in terms of helping and informing regulators I what is the ideal way they can go about thinking about regulation to engage from the very start of policy development because they may not be fully aware of all the difficulties and challenges from online content regulation. Those principles and this helps us to land in a much better place for when the actual regulation is passed. >> . >> But then in those various regions. So now in many countries the repressive actions are undertaken by governments and so freedom of expression is not guaranteed for the population but on the other hand in some cases we need some restrictions to cope with hate speech and also child sexual abuse material so it is not difficult for me to find the balance but still to keep under control all of this unwanted content and unhealthy content on the Internet. >> Yes. Always the question in the consideration to balance well. There was a question have a similar question but how do you deal with striking the balance so to tomorrow they want to access its your understanding about that. >> This is always a good question because we want to protect them but we also want to educate them from the.kids foundation point of view we do have materials that are completely prohibited, but there are certain categories where if it is in an educational material sense, if we are in school there is sexual education but in history lesson you learned about very violent so if it is in the appropriate educational context come I think it is beneficial for the sliding scale as well so what is appropriate that sliding-scale goes back up so to a child of 15 hopefully that is difficult and he doesn't want to add to them with the huge of. >> So we do need to train artificial intelligence to decide with the other category and in the end in some cases we need a human making the decision if that content is provided to young people or if it should not be. >> And important point does AI assisting with combating content as well as the human elements. I see there are more hands on the floor if you are first and second please go ahead. >> So what are the safety initiatives with the security and privacy? And for the children seeing the digital space knowing what they see they do because we are running out of time and then we'll try to answer at all that once. >> Thank you for the wonderful presentation and I'm glad you mentioned age appropriate design because it normally focus on content and not the design aspects. And it is readable and understandable because. >> I have not forgotten the prices by the way just come to me after this session. We only have a minute and a half left so what are the policies security and policies for go to.kids in there you will find a comprehensive set of registry policies that government that namespace I assure you there is very strict confrontation but regular top-level domains of course that we do look out for and we do. >> So we do try to make all these. But more sexy –- just of all for those images ourselves or we can collaborate but it's interesting from what they come out to further your experiences with the colleagues in future thank you for your great questions and we are running out of time that the upper hand and come up to the me at on –- four years questions. Thank you for your time. [APPLAUSE]